Diary & poem of record · Transformation
Seven readers debate perfection
London · April 9, 1877
I dreamed that I was in a large room, and there were in it seven persons, all men, sitting at one long table; and each of them had before him a scroll, some having books also; and all were greyheaded and bent with age save one, and this was a youth of about twenty without hair on his face. One of the aged men, who had his finger on a place in a book open before him, said: "This spirit, who is of our order, writes in this book,--'Be ye perfect, therefore, as your Father in heaven is perfect.' How shall we understand this word `perfection'?"
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- Source
- Dreams and Dream-Stories, Part I: Dreams — Anna Bonus Kingsford; edited by Edward Maitland, posthumous edition; dreams recorded c. 1876–1887. Part I, III. The Counsel of Perfection
- Record type
- Diary & poem of record
- Place
- London · British
- Date
- April 9, 1877
- Uncertainty
- Low — First-person dream transcribed from Kingsford's diary; the source supplies the place and date.
- Imagery
- Book · Crowd · Father · House
- Feelings
- Wonder
Another way to look at this dream
Notes on the images in this dream from psychology, myth, folklore and semiotics. Each names its source.
Book
Could you read the book? Did it belong to you, or did someone hand it over?
Hebrew prophets Myth & scripture
In a vision Ezekiel is handed a scroll written inside and out with “lamentations, and mourning, and woe”, told to eat it, and finds it “as honey for sweetness”. Taking a text into the body is how the message is received. (A vision, not a dream.)
Ezekiel 2:9–3:3 (King James Version)
Christian scripture Myth & scripture
In Revelation John is told to take a little book from an angel’s hand and eat it: sweet as honey in the mouth, bitter in the belly. The same book is both. (A vision, not a dream.)
Revelation 10:9–10 (King James Version)
A stranger
Did the stranger remind you of anyone, even slightly? What did they want from you?
Jung · Shadow, anima and animus
Jung read unknown figures as possible parts of the dreamer: a same-sex stranger may carry the shadow; an other-sex figure what he called the anima or animus. These are offered as lenses, not labels — and his gender framing reflects his time.
C. G. Jung, “Aion, ch. 2–3”, Collected Works 9ii
Homeric epic Classical text
In Homer, gods and dreams arrive in borrowed shapes: Athena visits Nausicaa disguised as her friend; Zeus sends a Dream to Agamemnon looking like Nestor.
Odyssey VI; Iliad II
Father
Was this your own father as you know him, or a father-like figure? Was there something unsaid between you?
Jung · Objective and subjective level
Jung suggested reading a dream figure twice: as the actual person, and as part of yourself. A dreamed father may be about him — or about your own sense of authority.
C. G. Jung, “On the Psychology of the Unconscious”, Collected Works 7
Confucian classics Classical text
Confucius, growing old, lamented that he had not dreamed of the Duke of Zhou — his model and spiritual forebear — for a long time.
Analects 7.5
Psychoanalysis Depth psychology
The night after his father’s funeral, Freud dreamed of a notice reading “You are requested to close the eyes” — a dream he connected to duty and self-reproach.
Freud, The Interpretation of Dreams (1900), ch. VI
Exploration notes, not a diagnosis, a prediction, or evidence of real events.
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