Oral history · Water
Never cross the large lake
Great Lakes region · traditional (recorded c. 1820s–1850s)
“My grandson, I had a dream last night, and it does not portend good. It is of the large lake which lies in that direction (pointing). You must be careful never to cross it, even if the ice should appear good. If you should come to it at night weary or hungry, you must make the circuit of it.”
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- Source
- The Myth of Hiawatha, and Other Oral Legends — Henry Rowe Schoolcraft, 1856. Hiawatha; or, Manabozho
- Record type
- Oral history
- Place
- Great Lakes region · Native American, Ojibwe
- Date
- traditional (recorded c. 1820s–1850s)
- Uncertainty
- High — An Indigenous oral story as recorded and edited by Henry Rowe Schoolcraft (1856 ed.); a colonial-era retelling, not a verbatim tribal narration.
- Imagery
- Lake · Snow & ice · Animals
- Feelings
- Unease
Another way to look at this dream
Notes on the images in this dream from psychology, myth, folklore and semiotics. Each names its source.
Water
Was the water clear or muddy, still or rising? Which water in your own life — a place, a swim, a flood — does it bring back first?
Jung · The unconscious
Jung called water the most common image for the unconscious: something deep, below the surface, that we can look into but not see through.
C. G. Jung, “Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious”, Collected Works 9i
Classical Chinese medicine Historical medicine
The Lingshu pairs dream images with the balance of yin and yang: when yin is excessive, one “dreams of wading through great water, and is afraid”. This is a historical theory about the body, not medical advice and not a way to diagnose anything.
Huangdi Neijing, Lingshu ch. 43 “Yinxie Fameng”
Hebrew Bible; Babylonian myth Myth & scripture
Several creation stories begin with primordial water — “darkness was upon the face of the deep” in Genesis, the fresh-water Apsu in the Babylonian Enuma Elish. Here water is what exists before order.
Genesis 1:2; Enuma Elish I
Snow & ice
Was the snow fresh or old? Did it make a sound underfoot? Did the cold hurt, or wake you up?
Early dream research Dream research
Ellis gives cold from disturbed bed covers as a common bodily source of dreams, with the case of a sleeper who dreamed of being surrounded by snow on a mountain and woke tangled in the sheets, partly uncovered, on a cold night.
Havelock Ellis, The World of Dreams (1911), ch. IV, on tactile sensations
Chinese poetry Literature
Liu Zongyuan’s “River Snow” empties a whole landscape — no birds, no footprints — and leaves one old man fishing in the cold: snow as solitude.
Liu Zongyuan, “River Snow”
Animals
What was the animal like — wild or tame, chasing you or keeping you company? Have you known an animal like it?
Jung · Instinct
In the Jungian book Man and His Symbols, animals in dreams are often read as instinct given a body — a part of us that is older than words.
Aniela Jaffé, “Symbolism in the Visual Arts”, in Man and His Symbols (1964)
Book of Songs Classical text
A Zhou-dynasty song records a dream reading: bears foretell sons, snakes foretell daughters. It shows how early animal dreams were read as signs about family.
Book of Songs, “Si Gan”
Hebrew Bible Myth & scripture
Pharaoh dreams of seven fat cows eaten by seven lean ones; Joseph reads them as years of plenty and famine — and says interpretation “belongs to God”, not to him.
Genesis 41; 40:8
Exploration notes, not a diagnosis, a prediction, or evidence of real events.
Dreams that share its images
- A basket of cold squirming snakes England · before 1911
- The rudder was forced from him Rome, Italy · c. 59–68 CE
- The Dragon King begged the emperor for his life Chang’an (setting) · c. 1592 (novel); set 7th c.
- No proper dog at all Scottish moorland (dreamed) · before 1888
- Armoured horses on frozen rivers Shanyin (Shaoxing, Zhejiang), China · 4th day of the 11th lunar month, 1192
- Seven lean cows Egypt (narrative setting) · undated (text c. 6th c. BCE)